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Enter the loonbag antivaxer

Something tells me my fruitcake detector field is getting more powerful. Last night I had the privilege of chewing the fat with a racist, homophobic creationist. That was pretty funny, if only because playing whack-a-mole with ludicrous arguments can be relaxing in small doses.

Tonight, this frothing ball of incoherent thought processes hove into view. The first tweet came out of the blue.

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    @anarchic_teapot The dogma & ambiguity tied to ‘conspiracy theory’ youtube.com/watch?v=qFV1b2… #corruption
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:15:05
  2. A 15 minute video of some guy talking at a webcam and objecting to the use of the term “conspiracy theory” as applied to whackjobbery? I have better things to do with my life.
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    Describes nutty ideas, eg Big Pharma, not ambiguous RT @EauTheHypocrisy: @anarchic_teapot The dogma & ambiguity tied to ‘conspiracy theory’
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:16:59
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    @anarchic_teapot Nutty ideas – questioning authority. I know. Really really nutty not to trust the govt. They’ve never lied before.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:31:58
  5. Yep, thought so. I’ve hooked another one. Maybe I should change my deodorant or learn to stop being so goddamn irresistible.
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    .@EauTheHypocrisy Could you explain the logic in those statements? You seem to be making assumptions. PS I don’t watch 15 min boring videos
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:33:32
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    @anarchic_teapot Of course you don’t. Cognitive dissoance. Continue believing the government and their many ‘truths’ #sheeple #gullible
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:40:41
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    DRINK !RT @EauTheHypocrisy: @anarchic_teapot Of course you don’t. Cognitive dissoance.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:41:12
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    @EauTheHypocrisy WTF are you gibbering about?
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:41:23
  10. It’s late and I’m not in the mood for humouring idiots.
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    @anarchic_teapot The thing that makes us different is I like to use my brain. You like to be told how to think.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:43:30
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    DRINK! RT @EauTheHypocrisy: @anarchic_teapot The thing that makes us different is I like to use my brain. You like to be told how to think.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:44:46
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    .@EauTheHypocrisy I see. You’bve been told to think anyone who doesn’t instantly believe you is brainwashed? Complete nonsense.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:44:37
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    @anarchic_teapot Oh. Typo. That must make me an uneducated nut. Quick! Screenshots!!
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:45:03
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    Typos have 0 to do with being nuts RT @EauTheHypocrisy: @anarchic_teapot Oh. Typo. That must make me an uneducated nut. Quick! Screenshots!!
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:46:00
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    @anarchic_teapot You’re right. Its more if you question the religion of pharma funded vaccine research and government untruths.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:49:22
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    @anarchic_teapot You just don’t get it. I LIKE to think for myself. I question fluoride in my water because it is poison. And it is.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:51:48
  18. Not even worth rising to. All in dosage, etc
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    @EauTheHypocrisy Look, reality-denying is good fun when writing storybooks, keep it out of real life: it kills children horribly
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:52:11
  20. She never answers this one. Colour me astounded.
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    @EauTheHypocrisy If you like to think for yourself, try doing it
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:53:15
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    And vaccines undergo stringent trials before marketing. Remember this the next time you claim you’re healthy. @EauTheHypocrisy
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:54:13
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    @anarchic_teapot Indeed. The reality of it is, vaccine research is funded by those who have a conflict on interest. #reality_check
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:54:48
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    The irony is that without modern medicine and vaccines, people like @EauTheHypocrisy probably wouldn’t be alive to lie about them.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:54:52
  25. Again, an amazing lack of response on this one. She has a high-performance Awkward Truth Filter, that much is clear.
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    @EauTheHypocrisy @anarchic_teapot like the millions of $ worth of cetuximab given free to cancer patients? Big pharma’s SO evil
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:55:10
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    @anarchic_teapot I do, which is why I don’t let your silly little smear-lists bother me.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:55:54
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    Not a smear. You just proved itRT @EauTheHypocrisy: @anarchic_teapot I do, which is why I don’t let your silly little smear-lists bother me.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:56:44
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    If anyone wondered, @EauTheHypocrisy is all butthurt because she’s in the “pseudo and anti-science” list.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:57:39
  30. https://twitter.com/#!/anarchic_teapot/pseudo-and-anti-science
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    @anarchic_teapot I know. Like 1 vaccine being compared against another for safety. No true placebos. I would be a nut 2 demand true placebos
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:57:38
  32. I think this is the old, unethical and pig-ignorant “vaccines should be tested in double-blind RCTs against placebos” gambit. Hard to tell, but I think it is.
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    .@EauTheHypocrisy Placebos… vaccines.. . That’s been explained a zillion times in really simple words. Don’t keep spewing that rubbish
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:58:47
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    @amewsing @anarchic_teapot And how many of those cancer patients actually make a full recovery & dont wind up back on chemo? Think about it.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 17:59:00
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    @anarchic_teapot Anyone asking why anarchic_teapot is trying to smear those he disagrees with? Silence the critics by branding them nuts?
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:00:19
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    I love being misquoted and lied about, it turns me on @EauTheHypocrisy
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:01:06
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    @anarchic_teapot Ah yes. I ask questions about vaccine safety because placebos contain adjuvants. I must be a troll. #denialist
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:01:54
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    But maybe I should start a “Total raving butthurt loonies” list just to make @EauTheHypocrisy happy. Then again, she’s not worth it.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:02:12
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    @anarchic_teapot Again with the sexism. I’ve come to expect this from the #stopavn. One of your doctors was oogling my boobs.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:02:59
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    @EauTheHypocrisy So that people get the treatment they need, instead of the shit sold by scum to idiots. @anarchic_teapot
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:03:14
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    If mentioning your gender is sexism, then do you prefer gender-neutral pronouns? @EauTheHypocrisy
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:03:56
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    @anarchic_teapot Back to the pety insults because you don’t want to discuss vaccines. Why do placebos contain acjuvants?
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:04:37
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    @EauTheHypocrisy almost none. they failed Crx already. Nice try though. @moronwatch @anarchic_teapot
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:05:01
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    @unclekennybobs @anarchic_teapot Sure they do. Thats why cancer (or chemo) inevitably kills them anyway.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:05:03
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    @EauTheHypocrisy Hardly a petty insult, but a perfectly valid question. Answer it, or live with use of the feminine pronouns.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:06:10
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    @amewsing @moronwatch @anarchic_teapot Thats what I am saying. Pumping them full of drugs which don’t cure their cancer.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:06:42
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    Cancer kills without chemo, and WTF has this to do with vaccines? @EauTheHypocrisy @unclekennybobs
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:07:18
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    @anarchic_teapot Back to vaccines, why are you running? Why use an adjuvant in a placebo if your vaccine science is so well-proven?
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:07:25
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    @anarchic_teapot @unclekennybobs it kills WITH chemo too. Infact sometimes Chemo does the killing. a bit quicker. Next?
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:08:00
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    @EauTheHypocrisy Looking up the info, since you’re incapable of doing it for yourself
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:08:40
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    @anarchic_teapot U don’t like me doing my research? Does that scare you that I know that placebos contain adjuvants? Am I not meant to?
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:09:37
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    @EauTheHypocrisy @unclekennybobs FPI order on this rubbish, I think. Studies, statistics, dates… and not from conspiracy sites
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:09:53
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    @EauTheHypocrisy nice try with the BS, but survival rates with regimes like FOLFOX prove otherwise. @moronwatch @anarchic_teapot
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:10:32
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    No, I wish you fucking would instead of acting the whiny kid RT @EauTheHypocrisy: @anarchic_teapot U don’t like me doing my research?
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:10:46
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    @anarchic_teapot I have, which I why I know vaccine placebos contain adjuvants. Do you deny this is fact?
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:12:25
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    @EauTheHypocrisy Neither confirm nor deny, not my field. Adjuvants are not huge doses of lethal poison, BTW. Only the paranoid think that
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:14:32
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    @amewsing Survival for how long? 5 years? 10? Riiiight.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:12:58
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    @anarchic_teapot Riight. Not your field yet you’re dimissing me as a nutter for having DONE my research? #hypocrite
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:15:37
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    @EauTheHypocrisy Since I said “past 10 years”… duh? I’d prefer 10 year surv. over 12 months. You prefer otherwise? @anarchic_teapot
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:15:53
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    No, I’m calling you a nutter for denying benefits of vaccines and not being able to produce coherent sentences @EauTheHypocrisy
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:16:34
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    @anarchic_teapot I’m calling YOU a nutter for denying the flawed science and corruption behind vaccines. #hypocrite #moronwatch
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:17:17
  62. Neener, neener, neener. Sounds like a primary schoolkid being nasty to a classmate.
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    Then you really are a gullible fool. Pharma companies aren’t angels but they do more good than your nasty beliefs do. @EauTheHypocrisy
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:18:29
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    @amewsing @anarchic_teapot Yeah 10 years & a crap quality of life reliant on more meds. More money for the pharmaceutical industry.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:18:36
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    @anarchic_teapot Not angels? So you admit that they are deliberately distorting the facts to sell their product to the public?
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:19:17
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    @anarchic_teapot reality: aus gov. regularly delays pbs changes because pharmas give free drugs until approval. @EauTheHypocrisy
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:20:33
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    @EauTheHypocrisy No. Angels do not exist. There are only humans, most of whom try to do more good than harm. Antivaxers only harm.
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:22:14
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    @EauTheHypocrisy So far from the truth. You think that’s correct? Hilarious & sad. Try learning not spreading lies. @anarchic_teapot
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:24:49
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    Start research here-> Antivax 101: Tactics and Tropes of the Antivaccine Movement wp.me/piXm2-12M via @PharmacistScott @EauTheHypocrisy
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:25:59
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    @anarchic_teapot I see you met this lovely person bit.ly/zvGsIc
    Sun, Apr 15 2012 18:31:03
  71. Ah, this explains a *lot*.
 
 

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The ethics of parasitic homeopathy

It’s not a good idea to act like a total merchant banker in my presence. I don’t scare easily and I don’t like being talked at as if I’m an idiot. Threats and bluster from quacks and frauds merely encourage me in my hope that I may be doing something right. As a result, I practise my WTFometer kata with added enthusiasm.

You may point out that, as Arthur Conan Doyle first posited and the Dunning-Kruger Theory of Fuckwittitude predicts, fools are incapable of understanding that others may be smarter or have a better grasp of the subject being discussed. That is so, but surely the instinct of self-preservation against public ridicule should kick in sometimes? For one particular foaming quack, this was one of those times.

Several days ago I published this on Scoop.it:

undercover-homeopath.blogspot.com (via @urban_healing) – February 13, 5:02 PM

Ethics? That’s in England, isn’t it?
FREE HOMEOPATHY CONSULTATIONS ON TWITTER:

Ethics? That's in England, isn't it? FREE HOMEOPATHY CONSULTATIONS ON TWITTER: | CAMwatch | Scoop.itAny colds, aches or sneezes? What are you waiting for? #healingmondays 4-5.30PM! http://t.co/9Slkjm9htweet or DM for homeopathy advice

You can safely assume that anyone giving health advice via any form of chat or microblogging service is a quack. So much for homeopaths claiming to be an ethical profession that spends time with its patients (they don’t, no more than real doctors on average).

That was the entire thing, except that it originally linked to the photo of this charlatan (she does “homeopathic profiles” of celebrities without their knowledge or consent, in true gutter gossip columnist style). For anyone who might not understand the problem I, or indeed anybody with a vague sense of decency or professional conscience, have with diagnosis-by-twitter, here you are:

  1. Firstly, this person, who is not a doctor, is claiming to give medical advice
  2. She is doing so via social media, which is completely unsuitable for any form of counselling
  3. Last but not least: she’s punting quackery

Yesterday, this comment arrived in Scoop.it:

undercover_homeopath

anarchic_teapot is the one with no ethics, bend on a campaign of disinformation fuelled by his fanaticism he fails to mention that the offer of free advice is only applicable for minor/recent ailments as clearly stated on the post, and repeatedly stated on twitter! I guess his obsession in evoking lack of ethics comes from the fact that he doesn’t really know the meaning of the word.
February 24, 8:22 PM

Great stuff, and one cannot but admire the frothing and incoherent attack that completely misses the central problem: dodgy health advice is being offered to complete strangers over a microblogging service. Here, under the Fair Use and Quote For Truth rules, is the original blog post referred to:

FREE HOMEOPATHY CONSULTATIONS ON TWITTER:

Every Monday between 4 – 5.30pm GMT I’ll be on Twitter available to treat your ailments for free.
Any health problem less than a week old responds well to this kind of quick prescribing.

The challenge is to be objective and to keep your appointment to one tweet only at the same time as giving as much detail as possible.

On your tweet include in this particular order: your gender M or F, your age, what the problem is and where is located (i.e. R or L), how it started, what makes it better, what makes it worse.

If you are worried about privacy send me an Direct Message!

I need to be following you on Twitter in order for you to be able to send me a message so remember to follow me first @urban_healing
I generally follow back unless you are a spambot or a complete scambag in which case there is nothing I can do for you!

Prescription:
Once I’ve tweeted you the remedy and potency you can order it from a reputable Homeopathic pharmacy either in person or on line.

While I am prepared to concede that “scambag” is a damn good word and that I should adopt it forthwith, could anybody please point out where this woman says she is NOT giving health advice over social media? Moreover, is there any real indication that she is only prescribing sugar pills for minor, self-limiting illnesses? Or that she would know when an apparently mild symptom could indicate a more serious illness that requires immediate medical attention?

Being a fair-minded Teapot, keen on balance and all that, I reTweeted the post so that others could read her “right of reply” rant. It elicited a response, the pettiness and stupidity of which I shall leave to the reader to evaluate.

For the curious, the photo used was her public profile photo from Blogger. I did not copy it, merely linked to it. As I have done here ->

Fair Use. Live with it. If it bothers you, make a remedy from it and take a pilule six times daily until the Stupid goes away.

P.S. I replaced the linked photo on Scoop.it with a nice rubber ducky because this woman is a dangerous quack.

 
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Posted by on 25/02/2012 in Homeopathy, logic #FAIL

 

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